Mormons confess that they are “open minded” in the interpretation of the Word of God

We continue to study the document sent as an attachment with an email from a Mormon. Click here to read that email and our reply to it.

Now, in the attached document, the Mormon says in the introduction (emphasis mine):

“This work is based on the diligent and open-minded study of Scripture and of the teachings of both these faiths.”

He is talking about the evangelical (or biblical) Faith that he considers as the teachings of some human denominations called “Evangelical Christians”(*), and the Mormon beliefs. So he says that his work is based on the open-minded study of Scripture and of the teachings of evangelicals and Mormons. Notice that evangelical Christians and Mormons are humans, and if you want to be open-minded toward their teachings and at the same time you want to study the Scripture, you will be interpreting the Scripture with human opinions. Indeed, being “open-minded” in the study of Scripture is not something praiseworthy, and yet this Mormon boasts of it…

Let’s first read the definition of “open-minded” in the dictionary:

Open-minded: having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.

The biggest error in the study of Scripture is to be open-minded towards new ideas or arguments in your study of it, as all new ideas are human ideas, while the Bible is the Word of God and only God can interpret it. If these “new” ideas or arguments are strange to the teachings of the Word of God, then we should be closed-minded towards them, as it is not something praiseworthy to be open-minded towards evil.

Indeed, Eve also was open-minded in her study of God’s Word, and we have seen what was the result. I have explained this in one of my comments on this blog, so I will quote it here with some added clarifications. Let’s see how Eve was open-minded in her study of God’s Word:

From the beginning of this world, Satan wanted to deceive people to turn them from God. From the first time in the garden of Eden, Satan wanted to make Eve turn her ear from the words of God to make her believe Satan’s interpretation of those words. God had planted a garden, the garden of Eden, with every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food. In the midst of that garden, there was the tree of life, and there was also the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (see Genesis 2:8-9). God had told man clearly: “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.” (Genesis 2:16-17) You see how much the Commandment of God was clear; there is no need for interpretation. God clearly said that man could eat from any tree of the garden freely. And the Word of God is also clear concerning the tree of the knowledge of good and evil: man shall not eat from it, for the day that he eats from it he will what?… he will surely die. The Word of God is very clear. Now, let’s see the interpretation of Satan that he gave to Eve:

“Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” (Genesis 3:1)

What’s wrong in this sentence? From the first sight, a simple man would say: “Well, yes, that’s what God said!” But in fact, that’s not what God said. God didn’t say that man could not eat from any tree of the garden. We have seen that God said that man could eat freely from any tree of the garden, but he couldn’t eat only from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. So you see that the first tactic of Satan was to exaggerate the commandment of the Lord to make it look burdensome. Actually, even questioning the Word of God by saying “Indeed, has God said?” is wrong, and Eve must have told Satan about this error… Eve innocently corrected the error in Satan’s interpretation, but she was already being open-minded towards his interpretations of God’s Word, which is a very big error! Only God can interpret His Word. Who is this Satan to have the right to interpret the Word of God?! Therefore she made another mistake which in fact is the first mistake of humanity which is based on the error of allowing to Satan to interpret the Word of God. Look what she said:

“The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat;
but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’”
(Genesis 3:2-3)

Eve was right concerning the fact that they could eat from the trees of the garden, but she must have taken the words of the Lord more precisely, so that she could face the deception of Satan. You see that she was not precise concerning the points that I have put in bold above; she didn’t tell Satan clearly that God has said that they could eat from any tree of the garden freely. Being precise in quoting what God says is very important, and it protects us against the deceptions of Satan, and that’s what Jesus did indeed when He was tempted by Satan. But look at the bigger error of Eve: she said that God had told them not to even touch the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Please, tell me: Did God say anything like that?? Not at all! But after Eve did the mistake of not quoting the Word of God precisely, she also made an exaggeration by adding to the Word of God, just as Satan did. She followed the example of Satan and chose the way of interpreting the Word of God instead of accepting the interpretation of God for His Word. So here we see the first error of humanity which is adding on the Word of God.

What Eve did here helped in the tactic of Satan. Satan wanted to make Eve feel that she is frustrated and that God is forbidding her from having good things, and she helped him in that by doing an exaggeration on the Word of God and by not quoting His Word precisely. Look what was the next step in the tactic of Satan:

“The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!” (Genesis 3:4)

Liar!

And he added:

“For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3:5)

Misrepresentation of the loving Nature of God!

Eve didn’t quote the Word of God precisely; God said: in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.” (Genesis 2:17) God said that they would surely die, and Satan interprets that they surely will not die!!

You see which deceitful way Satan took to lead Eve into sin and disobedience to the Commandment of God. Satan didn’t come and tell Eve: “Look, Eve, I am Satan and I am in rebellion against God who created you, and now I want to lead you in the same rebellion in which I am.” No. Satan came and lied, changing what God’s clear words mean.

After the exaggerations and the wrong quotations from the Word of God, Eve really felt that she was missing something very tasty in the garden, and she forgot all the trees that were under her free access, and she forgot even the tree of life! And look what was her only need now:

“When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.” (Genesis 3:6)

This was the rebellion of man against his Creator Lord… What caused it? Open-mindedness towards the interpretations of Satan and towards Eve’s personal interpretations and speculations.

We should be very open-minded towards all what GOD says, and very closed-minded towards evil and lies! We should not listen to carnal and satanic interpretations of the Word of God. God is the person who spoke the words of the Bible through His prophets and Apostles, and it is only God who can interpret what He said. When someone tells you something, and if you don’t understand it, you don’t go and ask someone else to interpret it for you; you ask the person who talked to you. And this is indeed what God says with many warnings:

“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:20-21)

It is the Holy Spirit who is the Author of this Scripture, and whatever is written in it cannot have any private interpretation. We can only take it in its general context, the Bible itself, and thus only the Bible can interpret the Bible, as it is the Word of God, i.e. it is what God says and how God interprets His Word.

Again, we read:

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.” (Deuteronomy 4:2)

We should not add anything to the Word of God nor take away from it. If you add your interpretations and opinions to what He is saying, then, as the verse says, you will NOT be able to keep the Commandments of the Lord!! Why? Because you will be keeping your own interpretations’ commandments, and not what He really commands you. What we need to do is not to interpret the Word of God, but to OBEY it. It is very clearly interpreted in the Bible. When we obey Him, the Lord shows us the interpretation in the Bible. The interpretation is there in the Bible, so you should look for it in the Bible, and not somewhere else. If a pastor or preacher doesn’t give you the Bible’s interpretation, then he’s a liar, whoever he is, because he gives you human interpretations!

Again, the Word of God warns:

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” (Proverbs 30:5-6)

If you add to the Word of God, God will reprove you and you will be found a liar. Instead of that, you should trust Him! Please note also that after the author says that every word of God is pure, he adds that this means God is a shield to those who put their trust in HIM!! So the Word of God is what God says and it expresses who God is. So when you add to it, you are trying to change the understanding of who He is! And this is what we saw above: with his personal interpretations of God’s Word, Satan misrepresented the loving Nature of God and wanted Eve to think He’s an oppressor despot who is keeping from her some beneficial needs!

Again, the Word of God warns:

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Revelation 22:18-19)

The Book of Revelation contains the consummation of everything until the new heaven and the new earth and the Wedding of the Lamb. It gives us the explanation of the fulfillment of all prophecies according to the final revelation of God’s truth in His Son (read about this final revelation in Hebrews 1:1-2). This indeed is explained at the beginning of the Book of Revelation (cf. Revelation 1:1-2). So if you add anything to the prophecy (singular) of this Book, you will be adding to the Word of God, and if you take away from it, you will be taking away from the Word of God. And the verses 18 and 19 above give you a clear warning.

So, in brief, we make it clear from the beginning of our replies to the document of Mormons: our sole authority is the Word of God. We are not open-minded towards human and satanic lies, and we are open-minded to what God says, because He is the Truth. We love the voice of our Shepherd, and we don’t like the voice of strangers:

“Verily, verily, I say to you, He that enters not in by the door to the fold of the sheep, but mounts up elsewhere, he is a thief and a robber; but he that enters in by the door is [the] shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter opens; and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name, and leads them out. When he has put forth all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice. But they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, because they know not the voice of strangers. (John 10:1-5)

We don’t accept human interpretations and opinions about the Word of God. We only accept what God says and how HE interprets His Word in the Bible.

Grace be with you!
Disciple of Jesus Christ

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20 Responses to Mormons confess that they are “open minded” in the interpretation of the Word of God

  1. Stephen Douglas says:

    If you are going to use this much verbiage on a single line, you might get through my introduction by the time I am 100, which is only 50 years away… Who will stay to listen to this much talk?! Remember what Solomon said about those who use a multitude of words. (Ecclesiastes 5:3)

    Dear readers, if you get fatigued at this kind of long-winded splitting of hairs, non-response, and are interested in what my manuscript actually says, you are welcome to send me a request at my email at puteoli1@aol.com. I will happily forward it to you, free of charge. Then you can make up your own mind about what we Mormons really believe. Take care and God bless you in your personal search for truth.

  2. Stephen Douglas says:

    And, dear readers, if you believe in Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit, you should not fear looking into anything anyone has to say. If you really believe, then you should know God would not let you be led astray, especially if you are praying to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ.

  3. Stephen, as I said in my reply on the other article, it is not our main purpose to just have an empty debate with you. You’re already having a debate with Christians on Facebook, so if you want to know the truth you can ask them, and you don’t have to wait for 50 years. We are not here to replace any Christian. And as I said before, you are free to post your manuscript if you care so much to tell people all its content even before we answer it.

    In our comment to your manuscript, we are doing a deep and detailed study about the errors of Mormonism. So if you don’t have patience to read our posts about Mormonism, you are free not to read them. We are not supposed to answer your manuscript in the way YOU want. We will answer it by explaining everything clearly, as Mormons like to change the meaning of everything to deceive people. So we want everything to be clear. And, no, don’t worry, we are not planning to pass 50 years on answering an unprofessional manuscript like yours. As we said before, we have other important things to do besides this. But we will not serve your purpose by just giving some unclear replies that will help you to deceive people by distorting them.

    And Ecclesiastes 5:3 speaks about you talking much in the presence of God when HE should talk and you should LISTEN. You have taken the verse out of context, just as all cultists do. It has nothing against what we are doing here. On the contrary, this verse says that God should be talking, and that’s what we are doing: we don’t want human teachings and interpretations, and we are presenting to you what God says in His Word. If you think that God talks very much, then don’t read the repetition parts of the Law and don’t read Psalm 150, and you will be the loser…

    So, as you can see, you don’t have the gift of a teacher of the Word of God, as you interpret things from your carnal opinions instead of accepting and teaching the interpretation of God for His Word. So stop teaching already, and begin to listen to the Word of God. Take advice from Ecclesiastes 5:3.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  4. Stephen said:

    And, dear readers, if you believe in Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit, you should not fear looking into anything anyone has to say. If you really believe, then you should know God would not let you be led astray, especially if you are praying to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ.

    What do you mean by “believe”?
    What do you mean by “Jesus Christ”?
    What do you mean by “”Holy Spirit”?

    Dear readers, Mormons give totally different meanings to these truths, as we will see in our study of Mormonism.

    And, no dear Stephen, we don’t fear looking into anything anyone has to say with the eye of the Bible. But if you prefer that we look into what you say with a blind eye, then that’s a different story.

    As for “prayer in the Name of Jesus Christ”, you can read our article Does God promise to heal all believers? where we have explained what it means to pray in the Name of Jesus Christ.

    Stephen, if God protects you from deception, then why were you in apostasy, as you say in your manuscript? Does this mean that you are not a true believer and therefore God didn’t protect you? Just don’t be hypocrite, and don’t use a double standard in order to deceive.

    Besides, just notice how Stephen is presenting to you the same temptation that Satan presented to Jesus:

    “Then the devil took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,
    and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written, ‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU’; and ‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP, SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.'”
    (Matthew 4:5-6)

    Stephen, just like Satan, tells us: “If you really believe, then you should know God would not let you be led astray, especially if you are praying to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ.”

    We should answer him just like Jesus answered Satan:

    “Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'” (Matthew 4:7)

    Stephen, you should not put the Lord your God to the test. Have you forgotten this?

    Your ways are not new, Stephen. That was the way of all false prophets from the days of old. You speak just like your father. I pray that you will get free of him by the truth of Jesus Christ before it’s late.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  5. Jettboy says:

    And what exactly do you mean by a “closed-mind” when it comes to the Scriptures? How are people supposed to learn what the Bible says? Where exactly did you get your understanding of the Bible? Did G-d talk to you and explain to you the meaning of the Scriptures personally? Is the English language pure and without any contradictions? How do you know that the English text is correct interpretations of the original Greek and Hebrew? Why is it there are so many differences between the English texts and the copies that we have from the other languages? For that matter, where are the original autographs that might clear these questions up or not?

  6. Peace to you, Jettboy!

    And what exactly do you mean by a “closed-mind” when it comes to the Scriptures?

    I have explained that we should be open-minded towards what God says, and closed-minded towards the interpretations of Satan and humans.

    How are people supposed to learn what the Bible says? Where exactly did you get your understanding of the Bible?

    As I explained in the article, you find the interpretation of the Bible in the Bible itself. What we need to do is not to add our words and interpretations to what God says, but to OBEY His Word. A really godly pastor-teacher or preacher will give you or help you find the interpretation of God in the Bible, and he will not give you his personal views and opinions instead.

    Did G-d talk to you and explain to you the meaning of the Scriptures personally?

    Yes, in the Bible. The Bible is the personal Letter of God sent to you personally. You find in it all the explanations of God and the whole mind of God.

    Is the English language pure and without any contradictions? How do you know that the English text is correct interpretations of the original Greek and Hebrew? Why is it there are so many differences between the English texts and the copies that we have from the other languages?

    The Word of God is not bound with a certain language, although it is written in a certain language. When you can’t understand it in English, you study the original languages or you ask a godly teacher who doesn’t preach his personal opinions but gives you the interpretation of the Bible. In other terms, when he tells you the meaning of a word, he doesn’t go on to give you his opinions about what that word should mean in that context, but he shows you what God meant by it in the same context in the whole Bible.

    So it’s not the English language that needs to be without contradictions, but the Word of God. And this is how it is.

    By the way, the differences are not so big between the translations as you make it seem.

    For that matter, where are the original autographs that might clear these questions up or not?

    We have many manuscripts that help us compare and clear up these questions. We study them, we compare them, and we know with almost 100% certainty what the original text said. Note: This doesn’t mean we don’t have the WHOLE original text. We have the whole original text, and we are almost 100% sure about the right variants of the few differences that do not change anything in any doctrine. So we have the whole Word of God today, as it is made clear by textual criticism. This is God’s Word and it cannot be lost or corrupted. God promised to protect it and this is what He did. If you think He didn’t, then you have a wrong understanding about who God is. And as I explained above, the meaning of a verse where you have a variant doesn’t depend of that verse alone, but it finds its explanation in other parts of the Bible.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  7. Stephen Douglas says:

    Really? So it’s about God speaking and us listening. All I see is YOU speaking. I stand by my comment about multitude of words. All anyone has to do is compare my short posts and Jettboy’s short post and your unending responses. What, is it who puts down the most words wins?

    By the way, I figured out why you use pseudonyms. They are shared by several posters/authors. I detect different styles of speech/writing in all the posts on Facebook. So, perhaps you should change “Jacob” and “Geawergios” to “Legion, for we are many.”

  8. Dear Stephen, thank you for your comments about our detailed replies: This shows that we are answering all the points and misunderstandings in your comments and in your manuscript that is full of errors.

    As for the pseudonyms, this question was already answered and explained in details in our article An email from a Mormon. But it seems you were so busy commenting about the length of our replies and about your pseudonym complex that you didn’t read us carefully. And you don’t need to embarrass yourself with those demon accusations. If you can’t answer our posts, then the best thing to do is to accept the truth and to repent from your wrong ways, instead of assuming things and judging those who tell you the truth.

    Anyway… We’re glad that you are receiving your detailed answers, so much that you began to complain about this fact! And we’re still at the beginning…

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  9. Stephen Douglas says:

    No offense, but I think I will skip watching all of this dissection of my intro and my phrasology. Please send me an email when you get to Chapter One about the Godhead.

    Take care.

  10. No offense, but I think I will skip watching all of this dissection of my intro and my phrasology. Please send me an email when you get to Chapter One about the Godhead.

    Take care.

    But we didn’t skip your long introduction, because you gave much time to write it. Unlike you, we respect the effort people put to explain things…

    We’re sorry for you as our replies are exposing the errors of your cult. But we’re not sorry for the readers, as they are reading the truth in our replies to your manuscript.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  11. Stephen Douglas says:

    There is a difference between someone who takes time to answer something and someone who just takes time to filibuster.

    If you have any other readers… If you readers out there are paying attention to this conversation, please send me an email at puteoli1@aol.com and let me know what you think or request my manuscript for your own investigation. If you are as tired as I am about being cross-examined for minutia, feel free to contact me. I assure you God won’t let you be deceived by this cultist. God is all-powerful; Satan only has power when you yield to sin.

    And Jacob/Geawergios, I won’t be checking back to see any more responses. Like I said, once you get to the doctrine of the chapters and want to “expose my cult,” reasoning with Biblical Scripture, just drop me a message on my email to let me know to come back and have a look.

    Take care.

  12. Stephen, you have repeated your email address many times. Do you wish to put it also on the “Contact us” page?…

    Your manuscript is being answered faithfully. And it seems that you are even ignorant of the content of your own manuscript, Stephen, because even the introduction of your manuscript contains many doctrinal points, and we are answering them.

    Thank you for admitting that you are not interested about the biblical answers to your cult’s teachings. Be assured that we won’t send you any email to invite you to read the biblical responses, as we have a much more important purpose here: we’re giving the true and right biblical teachings about all the points that your cult misunderstands just like all cults. So this is not only for you, but for all our readers. As for you, in case you are interested with the truth, you can come and read the answers.

    And I remind you again: There are some serious doctrinal errors in your introduction that need to be addressed, and we are addressing them. We respect the effort you have put in writing all that long introduction in which we see your hidden questions that need an answer.

    And finally I remind you that GOD takes care of His children, and not us.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  13. Stephen Douglas says:

    Since I have not received any emails from anyone reading this site, I am beginning to believe you don’t have much readership. Too bad, because you have obvioiusly spent a lot of time setting it up and filling it with its content.

    And, if I am deceived after an appeal to Biblical Scripture, which I cherish, and after I have gotten on my knees to appeal directly to the source of all truth, our Heavenly Father, in the name of His Onlybegotten Son, Jesus Christ, there is no hope for anyone to know the truth. You attempt to discourage your readers from requesting my manuscript for themselves because you fear they will be deceived by LDS false doctrine.

    Again, I reiterate, you inspire fear of a personal investigation, which only turns people off of Christianity, at least your version of it.

    By the way, the only reason I checked back is because “Jacob” suggested it on Facebook, as he claimed there was more response from you. I see nothing new since my parting post. Again, I will wait to hear on my email for any response to Chapter One.

  14. As usual, Stephen lied again… Let’s read what he previously said:

    And Jacob/Geawergios, I won’t be checking back to see any more responses. Like I said, once you get to the doctrine of the chapters and want to “expose my cult,” reasoning with Biblical Scripture, just drop me a message on my email to let me know to come back and have a look.

    We didn’t drop him any message on his email, and yet he came back to check…

    Stephen says:

    Since I have not received any emails from anyone reading this site, I am beginning to believe you don’t have much readership.

    Or maybe no one is interested to fill his hard disk space with such an unscholarly manuscript of a cultist, especially after they saw how many errors there are in its introduction. Don’t forget that we’ve been exposing your errors effectually by the Lord’s Grace.

    Stephen:

    Too bad, because you have obvioiusly spent a lot of time setting it up and filling it with its content.

    Thanks for your concern. But no, don’t worry, we have a good number of readers. Thank God that they are not interested in being deceived by cults like yours.

    And, if I am deceived after an appeal to Biblical Scripture, which I cherish, and after I have gotten on my knees to appeal directly to the source of all truth, our Heavenly Father, in the name of His Onlybegotten Son, Jesus Christ, there is no hope for anyone to know the truth.

    Yes, there is no hope for knowing the truth without receiving the true Christ, as we have seen in our articles. The false christ of Mormonism won’t be able to save you, as he doesn’t exist. The Scripture speaks about the true Christ. So if you don’t believe what you read in the Scripture, you won’t really believe Jesus Christ, and thus you will stay in your sins. The Pharisees also knew the Scripture, and yet they didn’t believe what it said. Jesus told them:

    “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
    “But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
    (John 5:46-47)

    It’s not enough to read the Scripture and to have good intentions. You need to receive the true Christ.

    Stephen:

    You attempt to discourage your readers from requesting my manuscript for themselves because you fear they will be deceived by LDS false doctrine.

    Please, show me where we did that. If we would do that, we would simply delete that part of your comments where you invite people to ask for your manuscript. Yes, we don’t want people to be deceived by your cult’s false teachings, but we don’t fight against that with persecution, but with the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God. And as you can see, you are receiving the answers to your unscholarly manuscript.

    Stephen:

    Again, I reiterate, you inspire fear of a personal investigation, which only turns people off of Christianity, at least your version of it.

    As I said before, the truth is not relative. There is only one true Christianity, and it is the biblical Christianity. There are not false and yet acceptable versions of the true Christianity.

    Stephen:

    By the way, the only reason I checked back is because “Jacob” suggested it on Facebook, as he claimed there was more response from you. I see nothing new since my parting post. Again, I will wait to hear on my email for any response to Chapter One.

    Jacob† has always been telling you about our answers to your manuscript, and yet you ask for emails… You’re so hypocrite, Stephen. Get rid of that hypocrisy and be honest.

    And it is not true that there is nothing new. Check the Mormonism section of this blog more carefully: Mormonism.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  15. SoldierofChrist777 says:

    Stephen, so you knelt down and prayed for the truth, ending up accepting Mormonism as a true religion from God. But do you realize that many Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists, Muslims, annd others, have also knelt down and prayed for the truth before they each accepted a certain religion as the truth? Each one believes his religion is the truth, and yet you believe that yours is the really true one. This, however, leads one to wonder why you would be right while the others wrong. Did you do something special that they didn’t do so that you ended up with what you believe is the right religion?

    Actually, this is why I don’t like when people rely on their heart and feelings as they search for the truth, since the heart and feelings can be very misleading.

    The reason I’m in Christ is because God opened my eyes and made me realize the truth about the sinful human nature and about the need for salvation from God Himself for my justification before Him. I couldn’t do it on my own, no matter how good I thought myself to be. It needed Him to save me through Jesus Christ.

    Notice how this is not based on feelings but based on the truth that’s independent from what I wanted to believe as a lost sinner. I mean, I didn’t like thinking of myself as a totally depraved sinner because it didn’t feel good to think of myself as such, and I’m sure many who have not come to Christ feel they don’t deserve to be considered totally lost sinners. Yet, at the same time, many of them (if not all of them) want the truth. They want the truth, but they don’t want to accept anything bad about themselves. So, instead of accepting the truth, they look for something else that satisfies them and makes them feel good. They end up rejecting the truth (after spending a lot of time praying for it) for the sake of something that would satisfy them (albeit temporarily).

    And I think this is why many Mormons are Mormons, many Jehovah’s Witnesses are Jehovah’s Witnesses, many Muslims are Muslims, many Buddhists are Buddhists, and so on. Sinners are very proud. They are too proud to accept the truth about their nature and the truth about why exactly Jesus came to this world to die for us.

    We all need Jesus, Stephen. You, me, and ALL out there. Our efforts won’t get us to heaven even if we profess Jesus. Only by faith in Jesus can one be justified. And when I say faith, I really mean faith, not “faith” + works.

    The true faith has works in it. A dead faith doesn’t have works in it, so it begs for the works of your righteousness to be combined with it in order to live. You, however, know how dirty your human righteousness is and how helpless it is. This is why a dead faith will always be a dead faith. And this is why anyone who is trying to be justified by his works is working in vain because it shows how dead his faith is. He needs a living faith, and only God’s grace leads one to have a living faith. Therefore, it’s not your works that are the cause of a faith being living; it’s God’s grace that’s the cause.

    I pray that you will understand this one day before it’s too late. May the Lord open your eyes to the truth of His Word and may His love be revealed to you through Jesus Christ on the cross.

  16. Stephen Douglas says:

    Soldier of Christ,

    Since I don’t see any name, are you just another version of Jacob/George? Anyway, you ignorantly claimed we Mormons believe we are saved by works. Since you obviously have been misinformed, I would be glad to forward you my manuscript as well, as it explains what we believe about faith and works. That way, you can be informed by a real, active Mormon, instead of believing what you read from detractors. Or, if you are just another form of Jacob/George, since you already have my manuscript, it’s in Chapter Two. My email is puteoli1@aol.com. Send me a message and I will forward you a copy. Since I won’t be checking in here for, oh, who knows how long? don’t bother answering me here.

    I will save you the typical hope message YOU will see the light of truth through the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Frankly, I will be surprised, pleasantly mind you, if I hear from you.

    Take Care.

  17. Stephen Douglas says:

    Oh, and your argument about how others gain faith in extra-Christian religions is not a reasonable argument, especially in light of all the Biblical Scripture that attests to how revelation is given, which is also covered in my book. There is validity in “burning of the bosom” in Biblical Scripture. So, email me and we can understand each other without all this long-winded smoke screen by Jacob/George.

  18. Stephen,

    It is up to SoldierofChrist to tell you who he is. But the sole fact that you insist on knowing whom you’re talking to shows that the things that you will say are not the truth that can be addressed to everyone alike, but that they are lies with which you want to deceive some people privately according to what you know about them and about their personalities and about their background. Nice confession.

    Yes, Stephen, you Mormons believe that you are saved by works. If you don’t, then why don’t you repent?? And, by the way, your manuscript is being answered by us, but bad to say you are not answering any of our arguments. Therefore, we go slowly, giving the readers the time to read and to understand the already posted articles, and giving you more time to think about how you can answer our arguments. Meanwhile, we’re posting some other important articles that you are missing, as you only check the Mormonism section; that’s a characteristic of cultists.

    But it is interesting that you still insist that your manuscript really describes what Mormons believe, although even your Mormon friends have told us that it doesn’t really represent their beliefs…

    Till here, we have seen that there is nothing but darkness in Mormonism, so spare us your poetry and go answer our arguments for once.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  19. Stephen,

    What do you mean by this “burning of the bosom”? And where did SoldierofChrist talk about how others gain faith in extra-Christian religions?

    Later, when we reach those parts in your manuscript, you will not answer our arguments there. But here, as that’s not the topic of the article, you talk about that and you forget about the topic of the article. Really typical for a cultist…

    Please, be precise and on topic.

    Grace be with you!
    Disciple of Jesus Christ

  20. SoldierofChrist777 says:

    Stephen says that he doesn’t believe that salvation is by works. Could this be why Mormons work for their salvation? 😉

    As for my personal name, I don’t think it’s important to reveal it here.

    Anyhow, thank you for your replies. May the Lord bless you.

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