Prayer to Mary

We are still studying this Roman Catholic article written in defense of Marian worship. Click here to read our previous study in this series. We now got to the last article in this series.

Prayer to Mary

After giving Mary the attributes of the Lord Jesus and after exalting her to Heaven with the imaginary doctrine of Assumption, now it is normal for Roman Catholics to worship her by praying to her and doing to her all what is related to worship…

In our previous study we have seen that Mary is dead and is waiting for the day of resurrection, and that her Assumption was just a heretical invention or a dream. So prayer to Mary is in the same category as prayer to any dead human or Saint. In this article, we will see the biblical principles according to which prayer to any creature is wrong and blasphemous, and then we will answer some false “arguments” that Roman Catholics bring in defense of the heretical teaching of prayer to the Saints, and more precisely of prayer to Mary.

I. The Word of God forbids prayer to the dead

According to God’s Word, prayer to the dead is wrong and even blasphemous for the following very important reasons:

1. Prayer should be addressed to God

Our Lord told us clearly to whom our prayers should be addressed when He taught us how to pray:

Thus therefore pray ye: Our Father who art in the heavens, let thy name be sanctified” (Matthew 6:9)

In this way, the Lord Jesus made it clear that prayer should be addressed to God who is in Heaven, and not to any creature, not even to those creatures who are in the service of God in Heaven. He clearly said that we should address God when we pray. And this is indeed what the Psalmist also said in Psalm 73:

Whom have I in the heavens? and there is none upon earth I desire beside thee.” (Psalm 73:25)

The Psalmist clearly says here that he has no one in Heaven besides God! Does this mean that the Psalmist didn’t know that there were for example angels in Heaven? Of course he knew (see for example Psalm 80:1)! But in Psalm 73 the topic is about the vanity of relying on creatures, so in verse 25 the Psalmist says he only has God when he looks to Heaven in worship and prayer, and that on earth also he relies on God alone! The angels are servants of God and they obey His commands (cf. Hebrews 1:14). A servant does only what his master commands him to do. So we should not address a creature and ask him for help or anything; we should address the Lord, and He decides whom to send or use in His service.

This is the pattern in the whole Bible: prayer is always addressed to God and not to any creature:

“So will I bless thee while I live; I will lift up my hands in thy name.” (Psalm 63:4)

This is indeed the pattern in the whole Bible. And the following points will clarify why prayer should be addressed to God alone and not to creatures.

2. Only God can hear prayers

“O You who hear prayer, To You all men come.” (Psalm 65:2)

In this verse, the verb to hear doesn’t only mean that God is able to perceive what we say in prayer, but that He also can know what we say without even uttering our prayers by an audible voice and even before we pray. The verb to hear also means that God knows the truth behind our words when we pray, i.e. He can know whether our words are sincere and true or not. The verb to hear also means that God is able to answer our prayers, because, if He could not answer, His hearing would not mean anything in this verse in which it is also said that all men come to God for the fact that He hears prayer. Note also that the verse doesn’t say “You who hear prayers” (in plural), but “prayer” (in singular, i.e. the essence of what prayer is), which shows that the psalmist has in mind the ability of God to do all what I explained above, therefore all men come to Him.

The implications of this are really sobering. This means that men can come to God in prayer because He is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient (attributes that are NOT shared by God with ANY creature, not even His saints):

A. Omnipresent: God can hear at the same time both the prayer of someone who prays in a little corner in USA and the prayer of someone who prays in a secret place in Middle East, because He is Omnipresent. God is everywhere at the same time and even outside time. Even if someone prays to Him from the moon while millions pray to Him from the earth, He can hear all of them. You don’t need to show people that you are praying; God who is everywhere can see you and hear your prayer even if you’re in a secret room: “But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy chamber, and having shut thy door, pray to thy Father who is in secret, and thy Father who sees in secret will render [it] to thee.” (Matthew 6:6) God can even hear what you say in your heart without an utterance, because God is in your heart also! Psalm 139 describes the Omnipresence of God.

B. Omnipotent: God is Omnipotent, and He is able to answer our prayers sovereignly, and not according to the personal limited wishes of the person who prays. Actually, prayer doesn’t change the mind or the Will of God, but it makes the person who prays willingly participate in the accomplishment of God’s Will. When you come to God with selfish ambitions and desires, you do not really come to Him. Actually, the Bible says that God listens ONLY to the prayer of the righteous and He is far from the wicked (cf. Proverbs 15:29). We know that all humans are sinners, and only Jesus is Righteous, so God only hears the prayer of the one who seeks or has Christ’s Righteousness. That’s why the Lord Jesus said that we should pray in His Name. The Name of Jesus means all who He is. In other terms, when you say “in the Name of Jesus”, you are not using a magical expression that would make God listen to you whatever you “command” Him, but you are representing that you want only what the Will of God is in a particular matter, and that you are ready to submit to His Will even if it doesn’t please your flesh. When you come to God in prayer in the Name of Jesus, you are declaring that you ask only what Jesus would ask; you come as Jesus. That’s why the condition of an answered prayer is expressed by two expressions that mean the same thing: “in My name” (John 16:24; John 14:13, etc.) and “according to His will” (1 John 5:14). All true prayers should be done in Christ’s Name, i.e. according to God’s Will and Plan of Salvation. In other terms, prayer and the answer of prayer are included in God’s Plan of Salvation. If God were not Omnipotent or the God who SAVES, then no prayer would be answered, because an impotent god who cannot save and who is not Sovereign cannot answer prayers. Thus the Bible makes it clear that prayer should be addressed ONLY to God who can SAVE: “Gather yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations. They have no knowledge that carry the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save. Declare and bring [them] near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath caused this to be heard from ancient time? [who] hath declared it long ago? Is it not I, Jehovah? And there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour, there is none besides me.” (Isaiah 45:20-21); “And with the remainder thereof he maketh a god, his graven image; he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me, for thou art my god.” (Isaiah 44:17).

C. Omniscient: God knows all things, and He knows the thoughts of your heart. You can’t deceive God with nice words; He knows what is deep in your heart (cf. for example John 2:24-25). He even knows what you will ask BEFORE you ask: “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as those who are of the nations: for they think they shall be heard through their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like them, for your Father knows of what things ye have need before ye beg [anything] of him.” (Matthew 6:7-8) If God were not Omniscient, He would not be able to hear your prayer and know what you are really asking, and thus He would not be able to answer you sovereignly and according to His Will: “In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.” (Romans 8:26-27)

3. Prayer is worship

“And with the remainder thereof he maketh a god, his graven image; he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me, for thou art my god.” (Isaiah 44:17).

Prayer is actually worship. When you pray to someone, you practically have in your heart a love and respect towards that person which should belong only to God. As we have seen above, when you pray to someone, you practically believe that he is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, or else how will he hear your prayer? When you pray to a saint, whether he is alive or dead, you believe that this saint is present everywhere at the same time and thus is able to hear your prayer at the same time when he hears all prayers addressed to him from other sides of the world! You believe he is omnipresent! You also believe that he is able to answer your prayer even sometimes against the Will of God! Almost all Roman Catholics believe that Mary obliged Jesus to do the miracle in Cana against His Will and against the Plan of God, although the text of John 2 says the exact opposite of this… Thus you believe that this saint is omnipotent, and even more powerful than God Himself!… You also believe that this saint is omniscient, or else how would he know that you’re not deceiving him with the words that you address to him?? Remember that he also needs to know this about all the prayers addressed to him from all sides of the world…

So when you pray to someone, you practically believe he is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. And these are three Attributes that belong to God ALONE! Only God is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient; no creature is, not even angels in Heaven! Thus you make that saint your god and you worship him, as you give him the Attributes of God. What more do you need in order to have a worship?…

So worship is related to that particular love and respect that we have towards God and which should belong only to God. This is why the Bible makes it clear that prayer is the incense of the saints (“saints” means all true believers who are sanctified or separated to God), and that this incense should belong to God alone. In the Book of Revelation, we read how the Old Testament incense was the symbol of the prayers of the saints:

“And when it took the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb, having each a harp and golden bowls full of incenses, which are the prayers of the saints.” (Revelation 5:8)

So prayer is incense, and incense is presented to God as an act of worship. The Psalmist also said this even in the Old Testament when the symbol itself (incense) was still used until the Substance would come (cf. Colossians 2:17):

“Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense, the lifting up of my hands as the evening oblation.” (Psalm 141:2)

Let us now see if this incense or worship can be presented to anyone else than God:

“And the incense that thou shalt make, ye shall not make for yourselves according to the proportions of it; it shall be unto thee holy to Jehovah. Whoever maketh like unto it, to smell it, shall be cut off from his peoples.” (Exodus 30:37-38)

So this incense or worship or prayer belongs only to Jehovah (God), and no one should address it to any creature: it is holy to Jehovah. This commandment was so important that God even said that the one who presents this incense or prayer to any creature should be cut off (should die!) And yet, many so called “Christians” today theorize that it is not such an important matter if some people pray to Saints… For God, this is a very important matter, as prayer is that incense which is presented in worship only to God. We should worship God alone! Thus it is not strange that Church Fathers have explained the gift of incense presented by the magi to Jesus as being a confession that He is God who alone is worthy of worship! In the Bible, incense has always been a symbol of prayer or worship, and God has always said that it should be presented to Him alone.

4. Spiritism is sinful

“And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto the necromancers and unto the soothsayers, who chirp and who mutter, [say,] Shall not a people seek unto their God? [Will they go] for the living unto the dead? To the law and the testimony! If they speak not according to this word, for them there is no daybreak.” (Isaiah 8:19-20)

This passage clearly forbids any communication with the dead. When you will pray, you should seek things from God, and not from the dead. Spiritism is clearly forbidden by God’s Word.

When you want to pray to a dead saint, you need to get in communication with him. Even a living saint cannot hear you unless you get in connection with him, whether face to face or by any communication method available (phone call, fax, a letter, an email…) Not even a Roman Catholic will sit and pray to the Pope, for example, asking him about a theological matter; he will just write to him (if indeed he is allowed to do so…) Even a living Pope cannot hear your prayers, how much less can a dead saint who is separated from us by death! You can’t talk to a dead saint, because he is not omnipresent as we have seen above. But pagans have invented a method by which they think they can actually get in connection with the dead, although the fact is that that method makes them get in connection with demons: spiritism. They call the spirit of the dead… They have necromancers (mediums) and soothsayers (spiritists) who call the spirit of the dead, but actually get in connection with demons… As this is a worship of demons and an abominable practice, so God forbids spiritism (cf. Leviticus 19:31; Leviticus 20:6; Leviticus 20:27). The Bible clearly says that we should NOT call up the dead: “There shall not be found among you he that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, that useth divination, that useth auguries, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or one that inquireth of a spirit of Python, or a soothsayer, or one that consulteth the dead.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-11) The dead saints are with God, so no one can call them and talk to them; they won’t obey your command to come and listen to you; they are under the command of God. A demon will come instead… There is only one time when a saint really came by a command of God when he was called in this way by someone (Saul) whose prayers God was NOT answering (cf. 1 Samuel 28:6), and that was for the purpose of REBUKING the one who called him and disturbed his soul when God was not answering him (cf. 1 Samuel 28:15)! That saint was Samuel; we read about that in 1 Samuel 28. So Samuel was NOT able to hear Saul unless he was called up from death! Saul could not just pray to him and talk to him! When you pray to a dead saint, you believe that he is present everywhere to hear you (which is worship, as only God is Omnipresent), OR you think he should somehow come up from death and be present with you when you talk to him (which is spiritism)! In both cases, it’s a sin!

II. Some false “arguments” of Roman Catholics for prayer to the dead

We will now see some of the “arguments” which Roman Catholics try to use in order to defend their human-made doctrine of prayer to the dead. Actually, this doctrine of prayer to the dead was not built upon anything in the Bible, as the Bible is clearly against it as we have seen, so Roman Catholics will have to make a great effort to insert this idea into the text of the Bible, and we will see here how they fail. In fact, such false doctrines as prayer to the dead are built on human writings that the Jews of the diaspora had invented and which are called Apocrypha. Those apocryphal books contain prayers to the dead and for the dead. We have seen in details how those apocryphal books are not the Word of God; here is the article: What is the Apocrypha? And why do some groups or “churches” add it to their copies of the Bible? So it’s not strange if Christians who believed in those human-made books believed also in their content, and other Christians later based their beliefs on their writings and thus believed the same lies. Roman Catholicism is the collection of all those teachings that are based on the accumulation of those lies during the centuries…

We will see here how desperately Roman Catholics try to defend this unbiblical doctrine even to the point of making God Himself an intercessor between us and the dead saints!… We will concentrate on the arguments used in the Roman Catholic article that we are studying and to which we already linked at the beginning of this article:

1. The example of a Church Father…

The author of the above linked Roman Catholic article says:

I’ll let the early Father and Bishop, Epiphanius of Salamis (4th Century) answer: “Let Mary be held in honor, but let the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit alone be worshiped; let no one worship Mary” (Panarion 3.2:7). And yet, this early bishop has no trouble asking the intercession of the Mother of God.

So this Church Father says we should not worship Mary, and then turns and worships her in prayer! So this Church Father contradicts himself, and no wonder, because he is a human and he may do errors. So I don’t see how this is an argument… Yes, the Church Fathers had many false teachings. For example, even the Roman Catholic Church that boasts of accepting the teachings of the Church Fathers does not believe in premillennialism although the MAJORITY of the Church Fathers in the first centuries were premillennialists… The Church Fathers had many teachings that agreed with the Bible, and many others of their teachings were clearly wrong. And why do we need to go as far as to the Church Fathers?? Even in the days of the Apostles themselves and IN the Church there were people who were teaching wrong things, and the Apostles warned us to avoid their teachings. Read the first Epistle to the Corinthians in which Paul opposes many false teachings that some Corinthians had. Did you know that some of the Corinthians even believed that there will not be a resurrection for believers?? Read with me:

“Now if Christ is preached that he is raised from among [the] dead, how say some among you that there is not a resurrection of [those that are] dead? (1 Corinthians 15:12)

If we would go by the logic of the author of this Roman Catholic document, then we should not believe in the resurrection of the dead, because Christians who lived closer to the Apostles believed that there is no resurrection of the dead!! What a false logic!

Many other examples can be quoted from the Bible where Christians believed wrong things and the Apostles had to correct them. In the same way, the Church Fathers made some mistakes, and they should be corrected by what the Bible says.

2. Asking each other for prayer is the same as asking a dead…

The author of the article continues:

If I come to you and ask you to pray for me, am I worshipping you? Paul asked the recipients of his epistles to pray for him; was he “worshipping” them by that request?

Let’s see how wrong and unbiblical this argument is…

First, you said it: you come to me and ask me, and you don’t just ask me… You can’t ask me unless you come to me in a way or another, as we have seen above (a communication method is needed). You don’t pray to me. While you can’t go to a dead saint and ask him to pray for you. The dead saint is not omnipresent, so he can’t hear you. Even a living saint cannot hear you unless you contact him in a way or another. Paul had to write a letter to the recipients of his epistles in order to tell them to pray for him. And you can’t ask those dead saints to come to you in order to ask them, as this is spiritism as we have seen above. So this is a desperate argument…

Note also that the example of this author is reversed… It is Paul who is asking the other Christians to pray for him, and not Christians asking this saint… According to Roman Catholics, Paul is a Saint. So in this example, a Saint is asking believers to pray for him, instead of them asking him to pray for them… And note that Paul is not burning incense and lighting candles before these Christians in order to ask them to pray for him! He’s not calling them his mediators with God in order to ask them to pray for him… And he’s not sitting in a room praying to them and asking them to intercede for him, but he’s communicating with them by a letter, so he doesn’t believe they’re omnipresent (see the explanation of worship above). When you want to come and ask me to pray for you, you don’t light a candle before me and you don’t bow before me; I am not God… All this is what Roman Catholics do before the image or the statue of Mary (or of any Saint) to ask her to pray for them. Let me share with you this video:

Do you do this to me when you come to ask me to pray for you?… This is worship. Indeed, your argument is desperate…

Besides this, when Paul asked those Christians to pray for him, he was not asking them to be mediators between him and God, but to fight WITH him in prayer, side by side:

“But I beseech you, brethren, by our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in prayers for me to God” (Romans 15:30)

And this is a very important point that Roman Catholics are not able to understand: Christians strive together in prayer (prayer is a fight, as presented in the Old Testament through the fight of Jacob with the angel — cf. Genesis 32:24-30). Roman Catholics say Mary is the moon, but instead of thinking that they also are equally moons that reflect the light of God, they put themselves in the place of darkness and they put Mary in the place of mediation between them and God! Thus they are not fighting together with Mary side by side, but Mary is in the place of worship, and thus Mary becomes a moon that makes a solar eclipse for them, instead of reflecting the light of Jesus with them. We have seen the details of this fact in another article in this series.(*) Thus Roman Catholics make Mary — or any Saint — a mediator between them and God, instead of just asking her to fight with them and for them in prayer. This is the big misunderstanding about the difference between “mediation” and “prayer for someone”, so let me explain it from the Bible, and let me show why mediation is impossible for any human, including dead saints…

In order to be a mediator between two people, you need to be able to represent both sides and to present to the offended person the thing that will appease his anger and thus to reconcile those two people. In our case, we have offended God by our sinfulness, and our sin separates us from God and it has made us enemies of God: “for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). This sinfulness is our nature, and not just some sins that we have done in our lives; the Bible calls this sinful fallen nature “the flesh”. As this is our nature and it’s sinful, so none of us can please God, because none of us can stop sinning to perfection. Whatever we do in order to avoid sinning, we will still sin, because our fallen nature (the flesh) cannot produce anything good. Thus, the Bible explains that those who are in the flesh (are naturally still in their sins) cannot please God (and not just they do not want to please God): “Because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God; for neither indeed can it be: and they that are in flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:7-8) So no human can please God by the flesh in order to be a child of God who is reconciled with God and no longer an enemy of God. One needs to be reconciled with God first and then he will please God not in himself (or in the flesh), but in the Spirit (cf. Romans 8:4). Now, as none of us could please God while an enemy of God, so no one of us can appease the wrath of God that is upon all sins in order to be reconciled with God and in order to reconcile all the rest of humanity with God; none of us could be a mediator between us and God, because all of us are sinners by nature and in need of a Savior. And none of us could represent both sides (human and divine), because none of us is both God and man. Although Roman Catholics tried to make Mary free of this nature of sin through the doctrine of the immaculate conception, but we have seen how they were wrong and how Mary herself said that she’s a sinner and that God is her Savior. So neither Mary is that sinless mediator between us and God. The Mediator who could appease God’s wrath and reconcile us with Him should be:

1. Sinless: In order to be able to please God, the Mediator should be sinless by nature, doing and thinking and feeling all what is good and not doing or thinking or feeling anything bad during the whole of his life.

2. God and man at the same time: In order to represent God truly, the Mediator should be God. And in order to take our place (Substitution) before God, the Mediator needs to be a human like us (cf. Hebrews 2:14-15). This man should be able to present his life for us as a sacrifice before God (i.e. he should be God who alone has authority over the lives of men to take their lives, otherwise he commits suicide if he presents his life). And why should he present his life for us as a sacrifice? Because that’s the price of our sinfulness: “For the wages of sin [is] death (Romans 6:23). As the wages of sin is death, therefore the one who will make atonement for us to save us from our sins and thus to reconcile us with God should sacrifice his life in our place. That’s indeed what God had already declared in the Old Testament: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.” (Leviticus 17:11) Our sin’s value is eternal negatively, because it is committed against the Eternal God who is the Creator, the Lord of the heavens and of the earth! So the wages of our sin, which is death, is an eternal death, an eternal separation from God in Hell. So if the Substitute Mediator will present his life as a sacrifice to take our place in that punishment, the value of his life should be eternal positively. Whose life has that eternal value other than God? No creature has a life with such an eternal value. So once again it is essential that the Mediator be God. The Epistle to the Hebrews explains how essential it is that the Mediator High Priest be God and perfect man in order to atone for us, as human priests of the order of Aaron cannot really atone eternally, because they first need to present a sacrifice for their own sins. The Epistle to the Hebrews begins in chapter one by telling us how the Son is God and then explains how the Mediator is of the order of Melchizedek, having no father and no mother (read the whole of the Epistle to the Hebrews to see this). Indeed, the Mediator is the Messiah, and no one else can be this Mediator, and “Messiah” or “Mediator” practically mean God Himself incarnate, because no one other than God could be this Mediator as we have seen. To read in more details about how “Messiah” means “God incarnate”, you can go to our article What does the word “Messiah” mean? Who is the Messiah?

3. Able to overcome death and the curse of the Law: The Apostle Paul explained how the curse of the Law is on us sinners: “For as many as are on the principle of works of law are under curse. For it is written, Cursed is every one who does not continue in all things which [are] written in the book of the law to do them” (Galatians 3:10). The Mediator should be able to bear this curse in our place WITHOUT being cursed Himself forever for His own sinfulness; this is what is written about Christ: “Christ has redeemed us out of the curse of the law, having become a curse for us, (for it is written, Cursed [is] every one hanged upon a tree)” (Galatians 3:13). On the cross, Christ took our place under that curse. But if this Mediator is a sinner and a mere human, then he will not be able to overcome this curse and this death, and thus he will be lost in Hell forever. The wages of sin is eternal separation from God because of this curse of the Law. Christ was separated from God on the cross because of our sins without being separated from Him by Nature (this is a mystery and not a contradiction!) Being in our place, He was separated from God because of our sins (read Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 — note how He calls God “God” here, while later He calls Him “Father”); and being God Himself, He didn’t cease to be God and thus His life never ceased to be able to atone for our life as we have seen above, and He could finally commit His spirit into the hands of God whom He still called “Father” and from whom He was not separated by His Nature (read Luke 23:46). As He never ceased to be God, so He could overcome the curse and the resulting spiritual death, and thus He didn’t go to Hell eternally (because His life already has an eternal value and can atone for our sins on the cross, and He didn’t need to go to Hell), and thus He didn’t stay in the grave, but just as He had authority to lay down His life, He also took back His life, because He is God: “No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have authority to lay it down and I have authority to take it again. I have received this commandment of my Father.” (John 10:18) Christ HAS RISEN! He is the Resurrection and the Life! If anyone other than Jesus tried to put himself under this curse and to be separated from God because of it, then he would be eternally separated from Him in Hell because of his own sins. This is indeed what Paul said: Paul wished to be cursed and separated from Christ for the sake of his people, the Jews, but that was just a wish showing the great love of this man of God… Paul could not take the place of a Mediator for his people, the Jews: “I say [the] truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience bearing witness with me in [the] Holy Spirit, that I have great grief and uninterrupted pain in my heart, for I have wished, I myself, to be a curse from the Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen, according to flesh” (Romans 9:1-3). Paul could just wish this by love, not intending to take the place of Christ the Mediator (which would be a blasphemy that Paul didn’t intend to do), but wishing by love to save the children of his people. But as you see, that was just a wish that could not come true, because Paul is a mere human and he could not overcome the curse and the death; if he were separated from Christ, he would be eternally separated from Him and would perish in Hell forever, because there is no Salvation without Christ! Thus no mere human can be the Mediator, not even a saint!

So it is clear that no human can be the Mediator between us and God. No human can give to God our ransom: “None can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him, (For the redemption of their soul is costly, and must be given up for ever,) That he should still live perpetually, [and] not see corruption.” (Psalm 49:7-9) The position of Mediator is by nature a divine position: only God can be this Mediator. No human can be sinless by nature, and God and man at the same time to be able to overcome the curse of the Law and to rise from the dead. If in any way you make anyone a Mediator between you and God or Christ, then you are making him God, and that’s a blasphemy and worship of creatures. The Bible clearly says that we should worship God alone.(*) As the Mediator is God and man at the same time, so the Bible clearly says that there is only ONE Mediator between God and men, and that Mediator is Jesus Christ the man: “For God is one, and [the] mediator of God and men one, [the] man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5) Note how immediately after this verse Paul explains that the Mediator should have been able to present His life as a ransom for us, just as we have seen above: “who gave himself a ransom for all, the testimony [to be rendered] in its own times” (1 Timothy 2:6). As Christ ALONE is this Mediator who became the ransom, so no one other than Him can intercede for us based on this ransom to save us to perfection: “Whence also he is able to save completely those who approach by him to God, always living to intercede for them.” (Hebrews 7:25) Whenever a child of God sins, he needs the propitiation that Christ has presented for him once for all on the cross (cf. 1 John 2:1-2). Christ does not need to present this offering for sin again and again, because His once-for-all sacrifice was sufficient (cf. Hebrews 9:25-28). His intercession for us is an eternal intercession done on the cross, and no one other than Him can make this intercession for us. This is the intercession or mediation of the New Covenant (cf. Hebrews 9:14-15); no mystery of the Covenant can be unfolded through any human other than Christ; and this is what John explains in the following passage of the Revelation: “And I saw on the right hand of him that sat upon the throne a book, written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who [is] worthy to open the book, and to break its seals? And no one was able in the heaven, or upon the earth, or underneath the earth, to open the book, or to regard it. And I wept much because no one had been found worthy to open the book nor to regard it. And one of the elders says to me, Do not weep. Behold, the lion which [is] of the tribe of Juda, the root of David, has overcome [so as] to open the book, and its seven seals. And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing, as slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God [which are] sent into all the earth: and it came and took [it] out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.” (Revelation 5:1-7) Note that no creature, not even the virgin Mary, could open that book or even look at it! Only Christ is the Mediator and He is able to unfold the mysteries of the Covenant.

Now, as no human can be the Intercessor or the Mediator between us and God, then what is that prayer that Paul asked from believers? It is just that: to pray with another believer, because we are the one body of Christ which is in war here on earth. Paul asked the believers to strive with him in prayer, as we have seen above: “But I beseech you, brethren, by our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in prayers for me to God” (Romans 15:30) Paul was not asking them to be the intercessors between him and God, because they were not mediators between him and God; no human can be the Mediator, as we have seen. Paul was not putting those believers between him and God, but he was asking them to fight with him and besides him in prayer through the intercession of Christ ALONE. Paul who explained that there is only one Mediator between God and men would not contradict himself by asking the believers to be mediators… This prayer which believers do for one another is not accurately called an intercession, because it is not mediation.

Now, note that in order to strive with a living Christian in prayer you need to be on earth, fighting the fight of faith. Christians strive together in prayer (prayer is a fight, as presented in the Old Testament through the fight of Jacob with the angel — cf. Genesis 32:24-30). Those who are asleep in the Lord (the dead saints) are not in this war anymore, but they have rested: “And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying, Write, Blessed the dead who die in [the] Lord from henceforth. Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; for their works follow with them.” (Revelation 14:13) The dead saints have rested from their fight of faith, so how can they still fight with us in prayer as the author of the studied Roman Catholic article dreams? They don’t walk by faith anymore, because they have passed from this side where we need to walk by faith as long as we have not seen the Lord yet: “Therefore [we are] always confident, and know that while present in the body we are absent from the Lord, (for we walk by faith, not by sight)” (2 Corinthians 5:6-7) What they can do is to rest from their works and from their fight, and to worship and glorify God day and night forever, waiting for the militant Church to join them: “And there was given to them, to each one a white robe; and it was said to them that they should rest yet a little while, until both their fellow-bondmen and their brethren, who were about to be killed as they, should be fulfilled.” (Revelation 6:11) Strangely, the author of the Roman Catholic article wants these resting saints to strive together with me in prayers for me to God” (Romans 15:30) as Paul was asking the living militant Church… Has this author not read how the Church Fathers explained the difference between the militant and the triumphant Church?… Does he only accept the errors of those Church Fathers and deny the biblical opinions in the writings of those Fathers?… The Church Fathers explained how the Church on earth is militant (means, fighting the fight of faith, striving in prayer until glorification), while the triumphant Church has already finished the fight and has triumphed and has rested from this war! So the dead saints cannot strive together with us and for us in prayer. Only those saints who are living with us on earth can pray with us. The Word of God is very precise about this, but many do not notice it… Look how the Lord Jesus made it clear that only saints who are on earth can agree with each other for a request in prayer: “Again I say to you, that if two of you shall agree on the earth concerning any matter, whatsoever it may be that they shall ask, it shall come to them from my Father who is in [the] heavens.” (Matthew 18:19) Believe me, the expression “on the earth” which I emphasized in this verse was not lightly thrown there by the Lord! The Lord does not put any term in His Word in vain, but He really means all what He says. We can pray with each other if we’re alive together on the earth. Dead saints who are not on the earth cannot strive together with us in prayer.

When Roman Catholics still want to ask the dead saints to pray for them, they thus prove that they don’t understand what the mediation of Christ is and thus they practically make those saints their mediators (they make them God, as we have seen above!) They make those saints intercessors between God and them, while the children of God do not need any such merely human intercessors! We don’t need any mere human to be between us and God, because God hears our prayers and He doesn’t need anyone to intercede for us humanly (note that this is different from Christ’s Intercession, as we have seen above, because Christ is not a mere human, but God). Not even Jesus wanted to be such a merely human intercessor as Roman Catholics want their saints to be, because God hears our prayers without the need for any such intercessor as He explained: “In that day ye shall ask in my name; and I say not to you that I will demand of the Father for you, for the Father himself has affection for you, because ye have had affection for me, and have believed that I came out from God.” (John 16:26-27) In the same verse, Christ said that He is the Mediator (He said we will ask in His Name), but NOT a merely human intercessor (He will not demand for us as a mere human), because the Father Himself loves us and hears our prayers because we love Christ and we are in Him (i.e. He is our Mediator). As Christ is God and He is the eternal Mediator, so we don’t have a human intercessor between us and God; Jesus Himself is God and He is One with the Father. We don’t need any human to intercede for us before God, because we are already in Christ and thus the Father hears our direct prayers; we don’t need human intercessors. As Christ is God, therefore we can pray directly to God the Father without any human intercessor, because we have Christ as our Mediator who Himself is God! That’s why we can also address Christ in prayer, asking Him (cf. John 14:14), because He and the Father are One and we don’t need any human intercessor between us and Them. Our Christian brothers and sisters who are alive with us on earth can pray WITH us and for us without the need for any human intercessor, because they also have Christ as the Mediator. They can ask Christ and the Father directly, without the need for any merely human to intercede for them. The children do not need intercessors between them and their Father, as Jesus also explained in John 16:26-27.

3. The dead saints are not dead…

The author of the article continues:

So far you have been asking the theoretical questions, now let me ask you a question: Do you believe that what Jesus said is true? If you say yes, hear him now:

I am the Resurrection and the Life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die. (St. John 11: 25-26, RSV)

“Shall never die.” That means that everyone who has “lived and believed” in Jesus from then until now is what? Alive! For as Jesus told the Sadducees, “God is not a God of the dead but of the living, for all live unto Him” (Luke 20:38 KJV). This includes Mary, the One who was the God-bearer.

Note that in the same verse that this author quoted from the words of Jesus, the Lord said that the saints DO die: “though he die”… This Roman Catholic is confused about the difference between spiritual death and physical or biological death. In this verse, the Lord was saying that although a saint IS dead physically, and yet he is alive spiritually in Christ forever! So how does this solve the problems caused for Roman Catholics by the physical death of the saints?? Does this verse say that those saints are NOT physically dead and thus separated from us?? No, this verse does not say this, but on the contrary, it says that they ARE dead and separated from us! So unless we call them to come to us, we can’t communicate with them, and calling them is spiritism which is forbidden by God as we have seen above.

As for the verse that this author quoted from Luke 20, that also says the same thing: those saints are not alive physically, but they are alive UNTO GOD (“unto Him”, says the verse!) They are NOT alive unto us physically! They are alive for God! Otherwise, this verse would not be an argument for the resurrection of the dead, although Jesus was using it as an argument for the resurrection: as the physically dead saints are alive for God spiritually, so He can also raise them on the last day through the life of Christ!

Thus once again this author presents a desperate argument; he even confirms that the dead saints are dead physically and only live UNTO GOD, and not unto us. The very need of Roman Catholics to pray to saints in order to ask them their requests shows that we are indeed separated from the dead saints.

4. The dead saints can hear our prayers through God…

As an answer to the objection that dead saints cannot hear our prayers, the author of this article explains:

That has never seemed problematic to me. The saints who have left this earth are outside time and are “in God” who is present to everything and everyone in all times and all places all at once.

Note how he managed to make those saints omnipresent, thus making them God… We have seen the details about this above.

And this understanding of dead saints being “in God” is strange and unbiblical. All Christians, the living and the dead, are in God, but we never pray to a living Christian, because, although he is in God, but he can’t hear our prayers because he is not omnipresent. The same is with the dead saints: they are not omnipresent, because they are not God. Understanding the expression “in God” as being one in nature with God is a blasphemy and a wrong understanding. Omnipresence is the very Nature of God, and no creature shares with God this Nature, whether before death or after this. What we Christians have is the new nature which is from God and which is in Christ, a nature FROM God (a divine nature) and NOT His very Nature (cf. 2 Peter 1:4). It doesn’t mean that we are gods, as false teachers teach today… It doesn’t mean that we are in the Father. It means that we are in Christ who is in the Father! We have seen a fuller explanation of this in our article “… one baptism” (Ephesians 4:5); please read that article to see the full explanation. But whatever is your understanding of this passage, it doesn’t mean that one becomes “in God” or divine after death, because the Apostle says that we (all Christians, even the living ones) have become partakers of the divine nature! As all Christians are in God, so do you now pray to a living saint? Never! Why? Because he can’t hear you unless you communicate with him by any method of communication… Thus the argument of this author falls, because dead saints are not more “in God” then the living saints.

But note also how this author makes God the intercessor between us and the dead saints… It was not enough for him to make the saints intercessors between us and God, now he makes God Himself an intercessor… In order for the saints to be able to hear our prayers, God should make them hear our prayers… But if God already hears our prayers (as we have seen above), so why does He need to make the saints hear our prayers and then to pray to Him?? What is this big circle in which Roman Catholics are turning, desperately trying to make their Saints intercessors for all cost, even by making God a servant communicating their prayers to their Saints! What a blasphemy! And what will they profit if God makes the saints in Heaven know what they have as requests?? Have we not seen that the dead saints have RESTED from their fight of faith and thus they can’t strive with us in prayers anymore??

Indeed, these arguments are desperate…

5. We have a cloud of witnesses!…

The author of the studied Roman Catholic article continues:

The author of Hebrews in fact tells us “…we are surrounded by a so great a cloud of witnesses” (Heb 12:1, RSV), that is, surrounded by the martyrs and saints. The Church has always taken this quite literally. HOW this can be so is beyond my ken or feeble ability to explain, but if I accept the Word of God, I must accept that it is so.

Yes, we should accept the Word of God as it is in context, and not according to our own interpretations of it. For instance, this passage that this author quoted is from Hebrews 12:1 which comes immediately after Hebrews 11 where the author of Hebrews explains how we have in the saints of the Old Covenant examples of witnesses of faith who have triumphed through faith. In Hebrews 12:1 he builds on that fact his argument that we should strive LIKE those saints by faith, fixing our eyes on Jesus (and he does not say “fixing our eyes on those saints”). Those Old Covenant saints are witnesses of the overcoming faith, and we learn from them. They are not witnessing to what we do, but they have already presented their witness in their lives, and that witness is about the power of faith, and we are surrounded by that witness in the testimony of the Bible! As it seems, this Roman Catholic understands this as meaning that these saints are watching us and are being witnesses of what we do… No, the text says that these saints witnessed for faith in the Old Covenant time, and we have them surrounding us in the biblical text as examples and encouragements.

So how does this mean that dead saints can hear us when we pray to them?? How does this mean that they are omnipresent?? The text of Hebrews does not talk about that, but about the witness that the Old Testament saints presented in their lifetime, and which is presented to us in the Scripture, as Paul also explained about the Old Testament Book: “For as many things as have been written before have been written for our instruction, that through endurance and through encouragement of the scriptures we might have hope.” (Romans 15:4)

6. The earliest Christians believed in the intercession of dead saints…

The author of the Roman Catholic article says:

That the earliest Christians believed the saints could be asked for their prayers is beyond question. That the earliest Christians believed the saints could be asked for their prayers is beyond question. We have found at Christian grave sites from as far back as the first century itself, graffiti on tombs that say things like, “Aufidia, little daughter now with the Lord, pray for us,” or “Matrona, dear wife, you are with Christ, remember me in your prayers!”

You say this is beyond question? Well, I question this… Show me any passage in the New Testament where it is said that those earliest Christians who are mentioned in the New Testament believed they could pray to the dead saints and ask them to pray for them. There is NO such text in the Bible! On the contrary, we have seen above how the Bible is AGAINST such pagan practices and superstitions.

As for the grave sites that they found, they still need to prove that they were really from the first century, and that the things written on them were written by true Christians who followed the teachings of the Apostles! We have seen above how many Christians in the first century had wrong teachings! Even in the days of the Apostles themselves and IN the Church there were people who were teaching wrong things, and the Apostles warned us to avoid their teachings. Read the first Epistle to the Corinthians in which Paul opposes many false teachings that some Corinthians had. Did you know that some of the Corinthians even believed that there will not be a resurrection for believers?? Read with me:

“Now if Christ is preached that he is raised from among [the] dead, how say some among you that there is not a resurrection of [those that are] dead? (1 Corinthians 15:12)

If we would go by the logic of the author of this Roman Catholic document, then we should not believe in the resurrection of the dead, because Christians who lived closer to the Apostles believed that there is no resurrection of the dead!! What a false logic! If you found a writing on a grave from the first century saying that there is no resurrection of the dead, would you believe that Christians always believed there is no resurrection of the dead?? What a false method to know what God says!

Many other examples can be quoted from the Bible where Christians believed wrong things and the Apostles had to correct them. So we can’t follow the example of Christians who have done mistakes, but we follow what the prophets and the Apostles have taught us! And we have seen how those men of God clarified that prayer should be addressed to God alone and that Jesus Christ is the only Mediator and that the dead saints have rested from their fight on earth and cannot keep striving with us in prayers.

7. Excesses do not disprove the right practice…

We continue reading from that Roman Catholic article:

Granted, sometimes there have been excesses when people have gotten carried away and asked more of the saints (including Mary) than just their prayers, going against actual Church teaching on the saints. Neither Mary nor the other saints (nor God for that matter) are “holy vending machines” at our whim.

But we first need to establish that praying to humans is a biblical practice, and then we may talk about excesses. Praying to a human is already an excess itself!

Besides this, how blasphemous to cite prayer to saints as equal to prayer to God… We have seen the details of this above.

8. Some Protestants still remember the saints…

We continue reading in that article:

This is why many Protestants (even those who confess belief in the communion of saints in the Nicene Creed) will not directly ask the prayers of the saints. However, many ignore the saints altogether (rather like tossing Baby out with the bathwater, if you ask me), but others like Lutherans, Methodists, and Presbyterians will commemorate the saints, either on one day a year (All Saints’ Day) or on a specific memorial day for a certain saint. In which case the prayer used is often something like this: “O God, we thank and praise you for St. such-and-such, for his/her life and witness. Grant us to follow his/her example etc.” The liturgy of the Lutheran Church (surely the MOST Protestant of all!) even asks God to unite the prayers of the congregation with the prayers of God’s people of all times and places. When you come right down to it and in spite of some nitpicking amongst the various churches, doesn’t it all boil down to the same thing – that when we pray, worship, and intercede, we are not alone but are surrounded by the Cloud of Witnesses, are united with those that came before, who are still our brothers and sisters in Christ?

We have seen how asking the prayers of dead saints is blasphemous, so those Protestants who do not ask the prayers of those dead saints do well. If there are any Protestants who ignore the saints altogether, then those are not true Christians, because you can’t ignore your brethren and still be a Christian. The Bible teaches us that a true Christian is known by his love to the brethren: “In this are manifest the children of God and the children of the devil. Whoever does not practise righteousness is not of God, and he who does not love his brother.” (1 John 3:10) All true Christians are saints by faith, because all true Christians are justified before God and sanctified to God by faith and thus walk in the way of sanctification. Thus the Bible calls the true Christians “saints” or “holy”: “Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of [the] heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Jesus” (Hebrews 3:1). Many other passages talk about true Christians as saints. For instance, the Apostle Paul was not addressing his Epistle to dead saints when he wrote: “Paul and Timotheus, bondmen of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, with [the] overseers and ministers” (Philippians 1:1)… The saints are all those who are the righteous or the just who live by faith: “But the just shall live by faith.” (Romans 1:17) The Bible teaches that true Christians (those who are born of God) love the brethren, i.e. they love the saints: “To the saints that are on the earth, and to the excellent [thou hast said], In them is all my delight.” (Psalm 16:3) This love is not limited for the saints as long as those saints live, but we still love them when they go to the Lord. But true Christians do not worship the brethren, because that’s worship of creatures; they worship the Lord God ALONE.

As for those Protestants who do anything more than this love for the brethren and give saints anything that does not belong to them but to God alone, then those Protestants are in error and we are not to follow them in their error, just as we should not follow Roman Catholics in their errors. We follow Christ alone according to His Word. So I don’t see where is the argument of this Roman Catholic author when he mentions false practices of Protestants: does he mean that we should follow the wrong example of those Protestants who do not obey the Word of God??… What an argument!!…

While Roman Catholics worship the dead saints, the true Christians love the saints even before they are dead, but they don’t worship them. True Christians (saints) are good examples for one another. All true Christians are saints who are taught in the Bible to encourage one another to the walk in holiness: “and let us consider one another for provoking to love and good works” (Hebrews 10:24). This provoking or encouragement to love and good works is not done just by words as many think, but it is done by our walk: we encourage others to walk in holiness as we ourselves walk in holiness. Thus the Apostle Paul encourages the Philippian Christians to follow his example of walk in faith: “What ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, these things do; and the God of peace shall be with you.” (Philippians 4:9) Paul was certainly not asking those Philippians to pray to him in order to learn from his example, as Roman Catholics do to the dead saints claiming that they are just learning from them… On the contrary, Paul asked the other believers to pray with him and for him as we have seen above: the one who asks others to follow his example of walk in faith asks them also to pray with him and for him… While Roman Catholics teach that the dead saints whose example we should follow should also pray for us, sinners… Notice the huge difference between the biblical teaching and the Roman Catholic doctrine that makes people worship humans… In biblical doctrine, all Christians are saints who encourage each other by the example of their lives and words. Just as Paul is an example of encouragement, Timothy also is encouraged by Paul to be such an example: “Let no one despise thy youth, but be a model of the believers, in word, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.” (1 Timothy 4:12). The same is said to Titus: “in all things affording thyself as a pattern of good works; in teaching uncorruptedness, gravity” (Titus 2:7)…

This is how saints encourage each other to the walk in holiness. So how does this mean that some of those saints should also pray to some others of those saints, asking them to intercede for them?? Are they not all of them equally saints, and equally sinners justified by faith in Christ who ALONE is the Mediator between them and God?? The arguments of this Roman Catholic are indeed built on dreams…

As for the prayers of the saints (i.e. true Christians) who lived in the past, indeed those prayers are powerful by faith. They can’t strive in prayer now that they are dead, but they did strive in prayer in their lifetime, and those prayers were not just about requests limited for their lifetime. Those saints didn’t pray for the Kingdom of God and for His Will just for their lifetime, but they also prayed for the furtherance of God’s Kingdom in all times of history. We also today pray and ask God “let thy name be sanctified, let thy kingdom come, let thy will be done as in heaven so upon the earth” (Matthew 6:9-10). We ask our Father that His Kingdom come now in our lifetime in the hearts of all those who believe, and in the future, even after we die, in the hearts of those who will believe, until the end of the world when that Kingdom will come by sight! So we CERTAINLY want all the prayers of all saints in all times to be presented to God with our prayers. We also have a promise in God’s Word that the prayers of all saints in all times and places are presented before God and are not forgotten or lost: “And when it took the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb, having each a harp and golden bowls full of incenses, which are the prayers of the saints. (Revelation 5:8) Once again we see how prayer is incense, i.e. worship (as we have seen above). In this verse in Revelation, the twenty-four elders are a symbolic way to present all believers in all times, as the twelve tribes of Israel and the twelve Apostles of Christ are added together and make that number twenty-four. This passage explains how the prayers of all saints who lived in different times of history and in different places on earth are present before God and are not forgotten! God does not dismiss any of our prayers, and some prayers are answered even after we die! In Revelation, those twenty-four elders are described as being in the heavenly places, as that is where we are right now in Christ: “and has raised [us] up together, and has made [us] sit down together in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 2:6). In Jesus Christ, we are in the heavenly places right now, even when we are still on earth physically, and our prayers are presented before God like incense through the eternal mediation of Jesus Christ! What a blessed promise! Thus the Epistle to the Hebrews encourages us to go to the Throne of Grace RIGHT NOW! We don’t need to wait until we are dead, because after that we don’t need to strive in prayer anymore after we have rested! The Epistle to the Hebrews tells us that in Christ we can now go to the Throne of Grace: “For we have not a high priest not able to sympathise with our infirmities, but tempted in all things in like manner, sin apart. Let us approach therefore with boldness to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy, and find grace for seasonable help.” (Hebrews 4:15-16) Yes, indeed, we have a great Mediator, a great High Priest, in whom we can approach the Throne of Grace right now and find grace in time of need! And all saints in all times of history have found in such promises a great encouragement, and their prayers were presented before God and are always present before God, just like our prayers. All the prayers of all saints in all times are truly and literally present before God, and God will never forget or dismiss any of our prayers done in Christ, so let us be encouraged to strive in prayer, because NOW is the acceptable time, the day of Salvation! Let us pray to God for the Salvation of our beloved and of our enemies, and for the Salvation of all humans in all times of history, even for all humans who will live after we depart from this earth. We are on earth to be God’s salt and light.

But I don’t see how all this means that dead saints who have rested from all this fight can still hear our prayers and can still strive with us and for us in prayer. I don’t see where is the argument for that false practice in all these biblical truths. Yes, the prayers of the militant Church are received by God; but how does this mean that the triumphant Church is still striving in prayer and has not rested yet?? The Bible clearly says they have rested… So the arguments of this Roman Catholic are confused arguments.

9. If you try hard, you can also worship the saints…

The author of that Roman Catholic document continues:

If you cannot, as yet, directly ask Mary to pray with and for you, at least thank the Father for her, for her openness to say “Yes!” to the angel, for her standing by the cross of her Son, for her being there in prayer with the Apostles on Pentecost, for her life and witness. You might even ask God to join your prayers and praises to hers and to those of all the saints of Heaven and earth, reminding yourself that you are not alone, but belong to a Great Choir of prayer and adoration.

Yes, as we have seen above, all the prayers that Mary prayed during her lifetime on earth are before God. But now that she has departed from this life, she is not striving in prayer anymore. Yes, all prayers of all saints in all times of history, including Mary’s prayers while she was still alive are joined together and presented before God in Heaven. We have seen the details above. But how does this mean that we can worship Mary now by praying to her and asking her to pray for us now?? Has she not rested from her fight of faith? How can she still strive with us in prayer?? Is she the Mediator between us and God? Does not the Bible say that Christ alone is that Mediator? Can she hear our prayers? Is she omnipresent and omnipotent and omniscient? We have seen the answers to these questions above. Prayer should be addressed to God alone; no one other than God hears prayer. Mary is dead, and she is separated from us; she can’t hear our prayers, and even if she could, she can’t strive with us in prayer for us, because she has rested from her fight of faith; she’s in the triumphant Church that worships and glorifies God day and night by sight and NOT by faith. Mary is not striving in prayer anymore, because she has rested from the fight of faith; there are no prayers presented by her right now that could be joined to anyone’s prayers; she’s worshiping and glorifying God day and night by sight and NOT by faith. While we’re still in the militant Church; let us keep the good fight, walking by faith and NOT by sight (2 Corinthians 5:7), striving together in prayers for each other by the sole mediation of Jesus Christ our Lord.

We thank God for the example of Mary just as we thank Him for the example of all saints in all times, especially the example of saints in our lifetime, as we have seen above.


In conclusion to his confused article, this Roman Catholic wishes that he has helped true Christians in understanding how we can pray to Mary… Christians usually wish they could help someone learn to obey God’s Word, while Roman Catholics would be happy if they could turn someone from the biblical faith… With those who are not truly of the sheep of the Good Shepherd, they surely can deceive many of them… But for those who are the sheep of that Good Shepherd, the Shepherd Himself said about them: “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me; and I give them life eternal; and they shall never perish, and no one shall seize them out of my hand.” (John 10:27-28) The sheep follow Christ’s voice in His Word, the Bible, and they don’t follow strange unbiblical teachings like those of Roman Catholics: “But they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, because they know not the voice of strangers.” (John 10:5) Roman Catholics think that they pray with Mary, i.e. with a dead, but in fact they pray TO her, thus worshiping her, as we have seen. They think that this helps them get closer to Jesus, while in fact this makes them replace Jesus by Mary, as we have seen in all our articles written as a refutation of this Roman Catholic article. This Marian worship replaces Jesus with a false Jesus in the hearts of Roman Catholics who instead of worshiping God alone worship creatures and seek the help of humans instead of relying on the true Christ alone who alone is the Mediator between God and us. By the way, have you noticed that in all this long article this Roman Catholic has not explained anything about the sole mediation of Jesus Christ?… And we have seen how many errors he has done concerning the Person of Jesus Christ… And he still says prayer with Mary helps him get closer to Christ… While the Bible says that God alone is the King of Heaven, and that there is no one sharing this honor and Glory with Him, Roman Catholics claim that Mary is the Queen with God, as if she’s not a mere creature of God! They claim that as God is the King, so the mother of God is the Queen, as if God has a mother! We have seen all the details in our long studies in this series that has reached its end with this article. Roman Catholics also believe that Mary is the mother of believers, although the Bible clearly tells us who the mother of Christians is: “but the Jerusalem above is free, which is our mother.” (Galatians 4:26) The Bible says Jerusalem above is our mother, while Roman Catholics insist that NO, Mary is our mother… And they still say they believe and obey God’s Word… For a fuller study of who the mother of believers is, you can go to our study Who is the mother of believers? Although Roman Catholics do not believe that John was the first Pope, but they believe that Peter was the first Pope, and yet they think that when Jesus asked John to take care of His mother after He leaves, then He was making His mother the mother of all believers… Does John represent all believers? Is it not Peter who the Roman Catholics claim is the first Pope?… Jesus was simply asking John to take care of His mother… I don’t see why we should not learn from this care and love for our parents instead of making Mary a goddess… After making her the mother of believers (against the teaching of the Bible), Roman Catholics assume that a good mother like Mary should pray for her children… They don’t understand that a dead mother cannot strive in prayer anymore, and that’s not bad! That is of course if we admit that Mary is the mother of believers, which is not true. If she is the mother of believers, then why did the Apostles mention Sarah as the mother of believers: “as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord; whose children ye have become, doing good, and not fearing with any kind of consternation.” (1 Peter 3:6) If Mary were the mother of believers, would it not be the best opportunity for Peter to mention her here in this verse as the example for all Christian women?… But he didn’t; he mentioned Sarah… Read Who is the mother of believers? for more details…

Then, after all this blasphemy against our Lord Jesus Christ, as this Roman Catholic author has already replaced Jesus Christ by his Mary, so he passes to glorify her with titles that were all proven unbiblical in our previous studies in this series. He even elevates her above the cherubim and seraphim, the two highest classes of angels in Heaven who worship God before His Throne day and night (cf. Isaiah 6 etc.)!! They elevate her above the highest classes of angels that are in the service of God alone, and they still tell us that they just ask her to pray with them and that they don’t worship her! Show me please where in the Bible it is said that a mere human is above the highest classes of angels?? Roman Catholics put Mary in the place of worship, making her the Ark of the Covenant in the place of Jesus, making her the representative of the remnant of Israel instead of Jesus, making her the Mediatrix instead of Jesus, and giving her all the titles of Jesus, as we have seen.

I end this series with the warning words of the Apostles:

“professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into [the] likeness of an image of corruptible man and of birds and quadrupeds and reptiles. Wherefore God gave them up [also] in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, to dishonour their bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into falsehood, and honoured and served the creature more than him who had created [it], who is blessed for ever. Amen. (Romans 1:22-25)

“Children, keep yourselves from idols.” (1 John 5:21)


Grace be with you!
Disciple of Jesus Christ


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1 Response to Prayer to Mary

  1. Mary T says:

    Brother, the Catholics also call Mary “mediatrix”.. but Jesus is our ONLY mediator between God and man. Also, when praying to any saint that the Catholics deem is a saint in heaven – they usually base it on that person’s “good works” they did while alive. But good works do not save anyone, nor guarantee they go to heaven (we are saved by the grace of God, not works). So the catholic who is praying to someone – might actually be praying to someone who is in Hell. Now that is a scarey thought!

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