We continue our comments on the manuscript sent to us by a Mormon called Stephen.(*) Click here to see the other articles in this series. You can also go to the Mormonism page to find all the articles that are in this refutation of Stephen’s document.
Before you accuse me of blasphemy for putting myself on a level with God and pat yourself on the back for debasing yourself to nothingness as though you were doing God a favor for disparaging His finest creation—yourself, let us just reason out of the Scriptures.
God is not waiting for a favor from us. When you believe God’s Word and you forget about your pagan dreams, you don’t do God a favor, but on the contrary, GOD does you a favor!
“What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.” (Ps. 8:5)
Yes, man is the crown of God’s creatures, and yet he is lower than the angels. What does this prove? That we are not creatures?…
Angels in this verse is erroneous. The Hebrew word is actually, elohim, which means, “gods.” (See the footnotes in the NIV and NKJV for verification of this translation.)
No, “elohim” doesn’t only mean “gods”, but it also means “authoritative beings” in the Semitic languages. Stephen of course reads the English translation of a Semitic word and then he understands it in today’s Western way, and he has no idea about the Eastern mind of that time that called any authoritative being a god, not always in the sense of the Supreme Authoritative Being who is God alone. As we have seen, the Bible makes it clear that the only Supremely Elohim is Jehovah ALONE, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. No one else is the Supreme Elohim. Others are relatively authoritative beings. It was for this reason that angels also were called elohim, because they are authoritative beings whose authority or power is the authority and the power of the One who sent them with a message. Unlike Stephen and today’s Americans or Westerns, the translators of the Septuagint understood very well what the word “elohim” means in this sentence, because they were learned people who lived in those times and knew very well what that Hebrew word meant in that context, so they translated it with the Greek word ἀγγέλους (angelous = angels). And when the Holy Spirit inspired the Epistle to the Hebrews, He used the same word ἀγγέλους (angelous = angels) in Hebrews 2:7. I am very sure that the Holy Spirit knows better than Stephen what “elohim” means in that sentence…
We continue reading Stephen’s document:
As already explained, Elohim is the Father’s name, He being the God of gods. (Ps. 136:2)
No, we have seen that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are that One Elohim, and we have seen why this plural Name was used about Him. He is the ONLY Elohim in the sense of “Supreme Authoritative Being” or “Sovereign God”. We have seen all this in details previously, so I will not go back there.
Is He the God of false gods?
He is Supreme over any other authoritative being, Stephen! Whether that authoritative being is a true authority or a false authority, that does not matter. He is the only Supreme Authority, only Sovereign God over all beings. Angels and God’s magistrates are under His Supreme Authority, because He ALONE is Elohim, the ONLY Supreme Authoritative Being, and there is no one else, as we have seen. Also, your false gods are under His Supreme Authority! Romans, for example, considered the Emperor a god. Well, that false god also was under God’s Supreme Authority, for He is the God of gods. Others considered a stone an authoritative god over them; God is also supremely Authoritative over that also, because demons are behind false gods, and God is also the Supreme over demons! Yes, God is the God of all gods, whether truly authoritative beings (angels and God’s magistrates) or false gods.
Of course not.
Why of course not? Because you say this? God is Supreme over all beings and over all what is called “god”, whether you like it or not. I know you don’t like this, because in this way the God of the Bible is declaring His Supreme Authority over the false god of Mormons also…
As only God is the God of gods, therefore the Antichrist will try to imitate Him by declaring himself the supreme being over all so-called gods, i.e. God: “who opposes and exalts himself on high against all called God, or object of veneration; so that he himself sits down in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
We continue reading Stephen’s document:
Are we a little lower than false gods? God forbid.
No, we are a little lower than angels, as we have seen.
And He crowned us “with glory and honour.” We are lower than Him, but we are royalty, His offspring.
No, we are lower than angels, and yes we have our honor as the crown of His creatures. And yes we have lost this honor by our corruption with sin, and yet God had mercy on us and sent His Son to save us, therefore Hebrews 2:7 applies that verse from Psalm 8 to JESUS CHRIST in whom ALONE we have our real honor: “Thou hast made him some little inferior to the angels; thou hast crowned him with glory and honour, [and hast set him over the works of thy hands;] thou hast subjected all things under his feet. For in subjecting all things to him, he has left nothing unsubject to him. But now we see not yet all things subjected to him, but we see Jesus, who [was] made some little inferior to angels on account of the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; so that by the grace of God he should taste death for every thing. For it became him, for whom [are] all things, and by whom [are] all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make perfect the leader of their salvation through sufferings.” (Hebrews 2:7-10)
And no, we are not God’s physical offspring; that’s what Mormons and pagans believe, as we have seen.
“God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. . . Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” (Ps. 82)
Yes, God stands as Supreme Authority and Judge among all what is called an authoritative being (angels included). God judges Emperors and kings and all principalities and powers. Even bad judges in Israel were still authoritative men (“gods” in the Semitic way of thought), and even bad kings still had that relative authority. Kings in Israel were called “sons of God” as the images of the true Son of God Jesus Christ, because that’s what “Messiah” means, and all kings were messiahs. To have a better idea about what I am saying here, you can read our article What does the word “Messiah” mean? Who is the Messiah? In that article you will see how all kings were called messiahs (anointed ones); God said that these will also be called His sons, not by nature, but by office, as images of the true Messiah, Jesus Christ who is His Son by Nature: “I will be a father to him and he will be a son to Me” (2 Samuel 7:14). Now you see why those magistrates in Psalm 82 were called “sons of the most High”; it’s clearly not as Stephen is hallucinating… But guess what: Stephen didn’t want you to know the rest of that passage, so let me quote it so that you may see his deception:
“I have said, Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High; But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” (Psalm 82:6-7)
Yes, these magistrates had received an authority from God to rule, but that didn’t mean that they would not be judged for their corruptions! Yes, God has called them gods, authoritative men, but they also will be judged as the whole Psalm talks about God’s Judgment! They are mere men, and they are under God’s Supreme Authority.
We continue reading Stephen’s document:
Jesus of Nazareth quoted these verses to justify calling Himself the Son of God. (See John 10:34-36.)
Yes, Jesus of Nazareth is the ONLY-Begotten Son of God! If even creatures who had received an authority from God were called gods and sons of God because of their office (“to whom the word of God came”, as Jesus said in John 10:35), then how much more has the NATURALLY Son the right to be called God and the Son of God! He is the real Messiah! If others were called messiahs, then how much more does He have the right to be called the Messiah! If even corrupted judges and magistrates were called gods for their authority which they had received from God, then how much more does God Himself have that right! Jesus is God Himself incarnate! So by quoting that passage from Psalm 82, the Lord wanted to tell the Jews: if even corrupted judges were called gods by God, then does not God Himself incarnate have the right to be called so? Have you just looked to the images of the Son of God given in the Old Testament and yet have refused to accept the REAL Son of God when He came?
Stephen is not seeing all these important truths in God’s Word, because he has been deceived and brainwashed by his false teachers.
And he continues:
This shows both OT and NT support for the godhood of man, children of the Most High.
Show us where the Bible ever says that man is a god by nature. We’re waiting… We have seen how the Bible clearly says that there is no other God besides Jehovah.
Immediately after Paul dismissed the false idol gods as nothing and that there is no other God but one, he declared, “For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) but for us there is but one God, the Father, . . .” (1 Cor. 8:4-6)
Note it well: those are CALLED gods. On earth, many kings are considered gods, and even stones and water and fire are considered gods. In heaven, people worshiped also the sun and the moon and stars! In the heavenly places, we have seen that angels also are authoritative beings but not separate from God’s Supreme Authority. But in this verse Paul is especially talking about demonic authorities who also are false gods and many worship them in the form of idols: “No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons.” (1 Corinthians 10:20) As you see, in the same Epistle, Paul explains that those false gods in the heavenly places are demons! We have seen how Stephen does not know that the devil and his angels are now in the heavenly places, and we have called his attention to that fact. Let’s read that verse again: “because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual [power] of wickedness in the heavenlies.” (Ephesians 6:12) Note how this verse also gives the same interpretation to the word “gods” that I gave above from the Bible: gods are principalities, authorities, lords, spiritual power! So “gods” indeed means “authoritative beings”, just as we have seen above!
Paul taught of a plurality of gods, but clarified how we do not worship plural gods.
Paul clearly said that we have only ONE God; the rest are creatures that should not be worshiped, but are only called gods for the authority that they have over other creatures, and that authority is relative and is itself under the Supreme Authority of the only God.
“For us there is but one God, the Father.”
Indeed, the only true God is the Father, as Jesus also explained: “And this is the eternal life, that they should know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3) The Father is the only Being who can truly be called God, because He is the only Supremely Authoritative Being by Nature.
To re-mention false gods and lords after having summarily dismissed them as non-existent would have been careless of Paul, especially knowing how easily corrupted these early Saints were.
We have seen how Paul did never say that false gods do not exist, but on the contrary he clearly said that there are many so-called gods, and that demons are behind those idols. Does Stephen think that demons do not exist?…
It was therefore necessary for him to explain how, although there are true plural gods and lords, we only worship the Father, in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ.
Yes, demons are truly authoritative beings, but not truly supreme gods as many consider them in the form of idols. So they are true gods, but not the true God, as we have seen. They are not God by nature.
So Mormons are in a big error, as they don’t understand the Scripture.
Grace be with you!
Disciple of Jesus Christ