We continue our comments on the manuscript sent to us by a Mormon called Stephen.(*) Click here to see the other articles in this series. You can also go to the Mormonism page to find all the articles that are in this refutation of Stephen’s document.
This discussion of Lucifer’s existence brings up another point of reason. The LDS belief of having an eternal “soul” or psyche, the intelligence Joseph Smith taught was not created, is the only logical explanation who we are, as far as our personality and character are concerned.
We have seen how the soul of man was created from nothing on the sixth day of creation. This has been explained, and we have seen how Stephen contradicts the Scripture.
If God had created our mind—as well as Satan’s mind, then we, and this would include Satan, could blame God for our failure, that He created flawed intelligence.
Where is the relevance, may I ask?… What does intelligence have to do with sin and rebellion?? Adam did not fail, but he rebelled against God by his free will. Adam had a perfect intelligence, and by “perfect” we don’t mean “unable to rebel against God”, but we mean “sinless”. As soon as he chose to rebel, his intelligence became imperfect and he became sinful. So what does this have to do with creation?? God created Adam free, with a free will to choose for himself, and he chose to rebel. Satan also freely chose to rebel. Mormons need to understand that Adam’s choice was not a mental act, but a moral act. Stephen has made this same error when he talked about Adam’s supposed “innocence” that we refuted in the following article: Did Adam have to choose between two sins?
We would have reason to say at the Day of Judgment, “You made me this way. It’s not my fault.”
God did not make us sinners. Read Genesis 1 and see how, after finishing His creation, God said that it was VERY good. We rebelled against Him, and THAT was sin.
But since our intelligence existed in the eternities before God provided a spiritual body to house it, He is not responsible for the choices we make in mortality or those we made in premortality.
We did not exist in pre-existence, because in pre-existence we had no existence…
Plus, if we made bad choices before existence, then that imaginary god has made us flawed. It was in that case that we could accuse that imaginary god, because we had no choice for our intelligence choosing wrong before existence.
And note how Stephen’s doctrine clearly denies that there was a creation and that God created everything. According to his doctrine, many beings just existed with God all the time, and thus the following passages have no real meaning for Mormons: “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” (John 1:3); “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him” (Colossians 1:16).
Mormons also, just like atheists, deny the creation, and they need to read the following article: In the beginning God created…
In spite of our personal failure, He has provided a way to satisfy Justice vicariously, through His Mercy, through His Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
You have surely noticed that Stephen has not yet explained to us what is Salvation and why God needed to satisfy Justice, and what Justice he is talking about…
Grace be with you!
Disciple of Jesus Christ